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No, not the really old *original* keypad design... - I changed over from then when I upgraded from G1 to G2. I have the new style with the round buttons exactly as shown in the pic above. these are \"white\" (I believe they\'re described as white, although I\'ve always thought beige or cream would be more accurate), but they do have the icons & text on the buttons in black - again, as is shown in the pic. The replacement I\'ve just got has white icons & text, which doesn\'t seem as \"contrasty\" when the keypad illumination os on... - I\'m pretty sure they\'re exactly the same apart from that - I\'m not at home now, so I\'m not looking at the two of them side-by-side, but from what I recall them looking like, I\'m fairly certain the key membranes are exactly the same apart from the printing colour... - I\'ll make a point of double-checking when I get home this evening...
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I swapped out the PCB & speaker from the new keypads into my original enclosures, thus keeping the original key membrane, and the polycarb enclusures which are of a slightly different shade. All is working much as it should, and SWMBO is happy that we kept the original key colours... - I\'m *still* seeing the \"Off\" key not tracking the correct state most of the time, - at the moment, I think it stays off until someone signs in, at which point it illuminates correctly... - but I haven\'t done a system reset yet, so hopefully that will sort itself out shortly...
Now, I have a couple of fully functional KP\'s that have no voice... - what to do with them I wonder?... - is it likely just the actual speaker that has died? or is more likely a PCB component?
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12-06-2010, 08:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2010, 08:31 AM by Pgordon.)
New problem.... KP voices are now all OK, but the LED\'s are definitely not operating correctly.. - A case in point that I made a point of observing in the last few hours... the KP by my bedside is where I set to night mode from. Last night when I set to night mode, there were *NO* LED\'s on at all on the keypad. I set night mode, and the red ARM LED came on & I thought no more of it. This morning, once again, there are *NO* LED\'s on....
So this morning, I disarmed as per normal, I observed the red ARM LED go on very briefly (less than a second), followed immediately by the green OFF LED... I continued to observe this time, and the green OFF LED went off after 15 seconds or thereabouts...
What gives? - why do my state LED\'s come on correctly initially, then almost immediately go out again?
TIA
Paul G.
PS, i *HAVE* now performed a system reset (via comfigurator), but I haven\'t done a complete power-down restart... do you think that would make any difference?
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I believe you may have inadvertently turned on the settings for EN50131 the great new European standard for security.
Go to Comfiguration > Modules and Settings, look for Show Alarms checkbox. I think you have the checkbox unchecked.
One of the requirements in EN50131 is that you are not allowed to see any indications on the keypad unless you sign in. The screen will not show the security mode and the LEDs will not show any indications. After you sign in and log out, the screen and led indications will go off after 30 seconds. This is so that the burglar cannot find out that useful information.
Furthermore when there is an alarm, the keypad is not alllowed to show any alarm, otherwise the burglar may find out there is an alarm!
If you think such a great \"security\" feature is a pain in the a.. , check the \"Show Alarms\" box and Comfort will behave in the way you and I are accustomed to.
You may not have encountered this before because old keypads did not have this feature in firmware.
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By jove I believe that\'s it!
I\'ve never come across that setting before, so it must have always been unchecked, and as you say, not relevant to me before with the older keypad firmware... I\'d actually had ONE of my 3 KP\'s that obviously was new enough to exhibit this behaviour, but I\'d always ignored it as it was the one by the panel which I only ever used for testing anyway... - now all my keypads work \"properly\" - i.e. NOT as the bl**dy EU think it should!
Thanks Chiu.
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