Problems with Fire Alarm

[admin]

Can you disconnect all wires from the two zones, and use a voltmeter to measure the voltage between the zone and common of each zone

also send you ccl file to support@cytech.biz so we can see if there are any configuration issues

[SteveS]

Hi,

I have disconnected the terminals to ccts 10 & 11.
I get a voltmeter reading of 1.85

I am unable, at this moment, to send you a CCL file as we do not YET have a PC linked to the comfort panel. This is to be future upgrade. My desire, at the moment, is to get comfort working as a basic intruder + fire detection system.

Please could you confirm two things for me..
1/. What version of the Program Worksheet should I be using with 4.207.
and
2/. ON THE CORRECT WORKSHEET(S) -  in tables 8, 9 and 10, What should be the values of row 23?
In fact - please could you email me - as an attachment - the correct worksheet.
Thanks
Steve

[admin]

The worksheet for Comfort I O4.207 is Worksheet File System 18 ie worksheet64guide.pdf . It can be downloaded from https://www.cytech.biz/manuals.html which lists all our manuals

The worksheet specifically can be found at
https://www.cytech.biz/Default.aspx?cmd=sQ0OYE9X66w%2b0P%2bAcFsmAI3j73Rwtfrj&fileid=20&dcid=3&pageindex=

The values for each zone can be found in Tables 8,9 and 10, with the loxcations and values listed

I suspect that your inputs have been damaged. You may need to send the board back to your distributor for repair. Where and when did you get the system as it is a fairly old one

[admin]

The voltage you are measured are correct for shunts set to NO EOL

program the followiing Locations as in the worksheet for Zone Type 23
Location 2656, Value = 255
Location 2657, Value = 131
Location 2658, Value = 12
Location 2659, Value = 5

Be VERY careful when entering these values. If you enter the values into the wrong locations you will only cause yourself more problems

Also check the programming of your alarm type 12 (Fire Alarm)
Eng Menu 2 for Alarm types, enter 12#
5 for Siren Type should have the value 2
You may have the wrong siren type programmed, causing you to hear the Trouble siren instead of the Fire siren

[SteveS]

[size=\"1\"][color=\"lime\"]The worksheet for Comfort I O4.207 is Worksheet File System 24. It can be downloaded from https://www.cytech.biz/manuals.html which lists all our manuals[/color]
[size=\"2\"]I think you mean 64 - please confirm....
I have been using 64 - NONE of the values in table 10 correspond with the right hand column entries on this table - THERE IS NO MENTION OF THE FACT THAT ONE MUST ADD 128 TO EACH ENTRY, which I see is stated in later worksheets
Please could you confirm the value that should be entered at location 2657.

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The worksheet specifically can be found at \\
https://www.cytech.biz/Default.aspx?cmd=sQ0OYE9X66w%2b0P%2bAcFsmAI3j73Rwtfrj&fileid=20&dcid=3&pageindex=

The values for each zone can be found in Tables 8,9 and 10, with the loxcations and values listed

I suspect that your inputs have been damaged. You may need to send the board back to your distributor for repair. Where and when did you get the system as it is a fairly old one
[size=\"2\"]Ccts 10 and 11 are on a newly acquired LEM01. I do not agree with your suggestion as - see previous exchanges - both ccts 10 and 11 work fine when they are defined to a different alarm type.
Regards
Steve
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[admin]

I have corrected the File System in my post it should be file system 18, work64guide is the document
You need to enter the locatuons that I have indicated  on my post above

[SteveS]

Thank you,

our posts crossed each other.

[SteveS]

I have checked all those settings. They are as they should be.
Still the same problem.

Thought...
How many different types of LEM01 are there?

Steve

[SteveS]

[color=\"green\"][size=\"1\"]The voltage you are measured are correct for shunts set to NO EOL

program the followiing Locations as in the worksheet for Zone Type 23
Location 2656, Value = 255
Location 2657, Value = 131
Location 2658, Value = 12
Location 2659, Value = 5
Be VERY careful when entering these values. If you enter the values into the wrong locations you will only cause yourself more problems[/size][/color]
I was and have been very careful with all the location values for I am only too aware of the problems if I get an entry wrong
The only difference I found was that the value at 2657 was 134 NOT 131. It says 134 in the worksheet. As far as I can make out, the only difference entering 131 would be to change the sensitivity from 500ms to 100ms.  As the contacts on the smoke detector(s) stay open until the unit drops out of alarm state, I cannot see how this will make any difference!

[color=\"green\"][size=\"1\"]Also check the programming of your alarm type 12 (Fire Alarm)
Eng Menu 2 for Alarm types, enter 12#
5 for Siren Type should have the value 2
You may have the wrong siren type programmed, causing you to hear the Trouble siren instead of the Fire siren.[/size][/color]
I have also carefully checked all the above and they are exactly as stated.

I have just spent quite some time testing. Trying out various security modes - Day mode, night mode and away mode. In each mode I have disconnected the detectors (ccts 10 & 11) at the panel. AND NO MATTER WHAT the security mode I only ever get a zone trouble.
The interesting point here is that I have the phone response for engineer menu 2, 12 set to off BUT I still get a call each time I open the circuit.
This leads me to think that, even though the zone type is \"23\" comfort is not recognizing this.
ALSO
I have just tried the following on cct 11
1/. changing the zone type to 0 (so it did not \'go off\' when I...
2/. alter the value at 2605 to 134. (yes - I did reset)
3/. changing the zone type to 10 .
The result was the same - opening the circuit only gave me zone trouble.

Any more thoughts please?

Kind regards

Steve

[admin]

You are using Comfort I. Are you also using the LEM01 for Comfort I? LEM01-M2 for Comfort II is not compatible with Comfort I