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 Posted: Thursday Dec 13th, 2018 02:25 pm
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Hi Mr Chiu,

Thank you for your response. I am using Engineer Menu Programming, the link you sent seemed to be not addressing my questions.

To diagnose why Response 6 is not activated, I decided to carry out a test without the Start Timer Response 194 code, but added in action code 116 to played warning message. So I changed Response 45 from
73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 194, 1, 0, 5, 6, 255. To
73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 74, 116, 74, 6, 255.

Step 1 - When I walked past the PIR, the PIR triggered and it’s LED activated, Relay activated, Bulb lighted up, warning message played on keypad, but bulb didn’t turn OFF.

Step 2 - When I walked backwards to trigger the PIR again, the Relay deactivated, warning message played again on keypad, bulb turn OFF.

Then, I walked past PIR again, Step 1 repeated. If I walk backwards to trigger the PIR again, step 2 repeated.

It seemed that Output 3 requires Retriggering of PIR to activate Responses 5 and 6 alternately. Why is it behaving this way?

Strangely, Step 2 wouldn’t happen to Response 45 with original codes of 73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 194, 1, 0, 5, 6, 255.

Last edited on Friday Dec 14th, 2018 12:40 am by david8811



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Hi Mr Chiu,

I changed and repositioned Response 45 Action Codes by including Start Timer Action Code 190 for 10 seconds before Keypad plays warning message and switch OFF Output 3. Thus, Response 45 was revised from
73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 74, 116, 74, 6, 255. To
73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 190, 0, 10, 74, 116, 74, 6, 255.

When I walked past PIR, Relay was activated, bulb lighted up, but NO warning message played on keypad and Response 6 to switch OFF output 3 was not activated too.

This test concluded that the system is unable to execute Start Timer Action Codes, Both 190 and 194.

Appreciate if you could advise the solution to this problem.



 Posted: Friday Dec 14th, 2018 05:34 am
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Your problem  is that your actions are wrong
73,3, 142,10,19, 143,7,6, 193, 74,5, 74,116, 74,6, 255means


If Hours < 19 Then
    If Hours >= 6 Then
        Exit Response
        Do Output3ON
        Do Reminder8OnKeypa
        Do Output3OFF
    End If
End If
Exit response ends the response so the following actions have no effect

If what you want is
If Hours < 19 Then
    If Hours >= 6 Then
        Do Output3ON
        Do Reminder8OnKeypa
        Wait 1 Seconds Using Timer01
        Do Output3OFF
    End If
End If
The actions are73,3, 142,13,19, 143,10,6, 74,5, 74,116, 190,1,0,1, 74,6, 255



The 2nd set of actions73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 190, 0, 10, 74, 116, 74, 6, 255
Is also wrong

action 190 should be190, timer#, timerhi, timerloyou may have wanted 190,1,0,10, NOT 190,0,10
That is the problem with trying to write raw action codes. you need to have a good knowledge of the actions
These errors would not have happened using Comfigurator

Last edited on Friday Dec 14th, 2018 05:41 am by slychiu



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Thank you Mr. Chiu,

This new Action Codes 73,3, 142,13,19, 143,10,6, 74,5, 74,116, 190,1,0,1, 74,6, 255 that you suggested didn’t activate any actions at all.

Then I tried my earlier Action Codes with correction on the Timer Number that I missed out. and brought foraward Response 116 before Start Timer 190. Here is the Action Codes
73, 3, 69, 19, 70, 6, 193, 74, 5, 74, 116, 190, 1, 0, 10, 74, 116, 74, 6, 255

Step 1- When tested, it triggered the Relay, bulb lighted up and warning message played on keypad, but it didn’t switch OFF Output 3.
Step 2- When I walked backwards to retrigger the PIR, then it replayed the warning message and switched OFF output 3 and the bulb.

Step 1 and 2 can be repeated to switch On and Off the light. Why the Timer function is not responding?

Last edited on Saturday Dec 15th, 2018 01:56 am by david8811



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I still do not know what firmware you haveYou may have Optimum which has different actions
Take a photo of the Main Board. check the label on the IC which says "ULT" or "OPT"
If we do not know this then and do not have a cclx time we are wasting time



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My system is ULT , 7,xxx



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There is something that you have programmed wrongly or reported inaccurately or missed out
It is not possible for us to help from here
You will need to go through all your responses and actions and find out exactly what each action means, and check all the called response numbers.
If you had UCM you could send the cclx file and we could analyse it. but if you program by keypad we cannot help much



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What is teh difference of using Timer No. 1 or 2 or 3 in a Start Timer Action Codes?



 Posted: Saturday Dec 15th, 2018 07:18 am
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You can use any timer.There is no difference between timers
Just use one timer for 1 function
Do not use the same timer for different functions
see http://www.comfortforums.com/view_topic.php?id=4062&forum_id=92 for fuller explanation


Timers are a well established function and have been used in many installations for 20 years. There is no problem with operation of timers  if the actions are coded correctly

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