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Fibaro Dimmer 2 FGD-212 learned as a Multilevel Sensor
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 Posted: Monday Feb 22nd, 2016 06:04 pm
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bagushandhoko wrote: Hi Muddymickey .. its good news for me that you could control FGD 212 from comfort ... have you changed the security association method when connect to aeotec ?Um, no I don't think I did - haven't changed any security settings on the FGD-212. I just included it as a non-secure device via Domoticz.

All I know is that from the buttons in Comfigurator I can switch on and off. Not sure if I'll be able to send dimming commands or not yet. Maybe this is due to my Z-Wave firmware ?

Just for info I'm not a pro with Comfort, just a selfbuilder who likes tinkering, so am still figuring stuff out :)



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leonchue wrote: muddymickey wrote: However, the only Z-Wave command I can choose in a response is a "Basic Get Command".  
Any suggestions ?

Have you try to click on the "Basic Get Command" and reveal a drop-down arrow?  
Click on the arrow to see "Basic Set Command" in the list.

See example as attached.
I'm 90% sure I tried that. But I'll have another look tonight just to be sure.



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I have two UCMs: Z-Wave (firmware 7.013) USB (firmware 5.178)How do I upgrade my USB UCM ?

You need another UCM to upgrade the UCM 5.178 using the programming cableThe programming cable can be used to upgrade another device but not itself
I suggest you ask the supplier of your comfort to do the upgrade for you by sending them the UCM or making a trip to their officeAlso - not sure if this is related or not - but since doing this work yesterday, my keypad is constantly showing "UCM3 communication failure". 

That means you have 3 UCMs in the configuration but the 3rd UCM is not connected
Do a Scan for Modules and look at the result and write to Comfort again



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Can I somehow use the Z-wave UCM to upgrade my USB UCM ?
Swap the daughterboards around or something like that ?



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tech07 wrote:
Do a Scan for Modules and look at the result and write to Comfort again
OK, will give that a go tonight, thanks.



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I'm afraid that doesn't work



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slychiu wrote: I'm afraid that doesn't workWhat doesn't - the daughterboard switching ?



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Switching daughter boards makes both ucms nonfunctional
You need another General ucm to upgrade a general ucm via the programming cable
Once the ucm is upgraded to v7 it can upgrade its own firmware as well as other devices without needing the cable



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Looks like I misunderstood.
When one refers to say, UCM/USB having firmware 5.178 - is this the firmware on the UCM06 motherboard, or the firmware of the USB daughterboard ?

So, given the parts I have, there is no way I can update the UCM firmware myself ?



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Could I do this:
1) Buy an ETH03 daughterboard, and temporarily fit in in place of the Z-Wave daughterboard
2) Use it to update the UCM/USB firmware with the cable
3) Refit the Z-Wave daughterboard
4) Remove the USB daughterboard and fit the ETH03 daughterboard

So I end up with:
1 x UCM/Z-Wave
1 x UCM/ETH03

Or have I completely missed the point :)
I'm half considering an ethernet interface, so wondered if this could be a cost-effective route to it.

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I don't think you can do that; ie change a UCM/ZWave to UCM/Gen just by changing the daughter card as the upgrade will prevent you "upgrading" from ZWave type to GEN type.



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muddymickey wrote: bagushandhoko wrote: Hi Muddymickey .. its good news for me that you could control FGD 212 from comfort ... have you changed the security association method when connect to aeotec ?Um, no I don't think I did - haven't changed any security settings on the FGD-212. I just included it as a non-secure device via Domoticz.

All I know is that from the buttons in Comfigurator I can switch on and off. Not sure if I'll be able to send dimming commands or not yet. Maybe this is due to my Z-Wave firmware ?

Just for info I'm not a pro with Comfort, just a selfbuilder who likes tinkering, so am still figuring stuff out :)


similar with me ... it just setting for my own house .. IT is my hobby.
So the aeotec is the primary control , isnt it ? when include FGD 212 to comfort... it detect from aeotecs or domoticz ? 



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Yes the Aeotec is the primary controller.I added the FGD-212 via Domoticz on the Raspberry Pi.
I couldn't get it to add for ages, and it turned out that when pressing the light switch 3 times on the FGD-212 to make it available for inclusion, I was pressing the button too quickly. Once I slowed the button presses down, it was included straight away.
I think you can include devices direct from the Aeotec Z-stick itself, but haven't looked into that.



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juwi_uk wrote: I don't think you can do that; ie change a UCM/ZWave to UCM/Gen just by changing the daughter card as the upgrade will prevent you "upgrading" from ZWave type to GEN type.
Ah right, think I understand now.
While fitting the UCM/Z-wave, I thought the base PCB looked the same as the base PCB of the UCM/USB, so I assumed they both shared a common base UCM board.
Guess not :(
It's quite annoying as I really want to update to latest Z-Wave firmware to see if the Fibaro FGD-212 will work, but it seems I have no way to do it myself.



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Hi
They are the same hardware but Cytech stop you cross upgrading in the firmware upgrade utility as you can only upgrade like type to same type.
Where do you live; county in UK?
Ju



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Live in Derbyshire, work in Cheshire (Stockport).



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Have been in touch with Laser Business systems (who I bought the programming cable from recently to upgrade the main board).
They'll update the UCM/USB firmware for me if I post it to them.

Once I've got that sorted, and have updated the UCM/Z-Wave to latest firmware, I'll see if I get any further with the FGD-212.



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Right, I'm back.

First a massive thankyou to Laser Business Systems.

I posted off my UCM at Wednesday lunchtime, received it back today (Friday) morning.
Superfast turnaround, all free of charge. They wouldn't even accept my offer to pay the return postage.

Service like that deserves mentioning.

Anyway, back to Z-Wave and the FGD-212.

I've now updated my Z-Wave UCM to firmware 7.072.

And using a counter, I can now use a response to set the dimming level of a light using the FGD-212 !
If I set my counter to a value of, say 5 - and click "execute response" - lights come on dim.
If I set my counter to a value of 99, and click "execute response" - lights come on bright.

So the FGD-212 can work :)

However, I have to use a counter. I can't use a Z-Wave action, as the only action available to me is a Basic Get command. Have double-checked, no other options are in the drop-down menu.
Is this expected ?



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Does it show as "Power_Switch_Multilevel" when displayed on the ZWave Mapping tab as the older Fibaro dimmers do?



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I am not sure why set is not pssible but Using a counter to set dim level is more useful than fixed action.This means you can change counter value based on different conditions to set the dimming level, and you can use the comfort app to set the dmming level
Note that the counter values for dimming Zwave is 0 to 255, not 0 to 99255 is fully on.0 to 254 counter value is converted to 0 to 99 zwave level, and vice versa for status from zwave.
This is so that using the Comfort app, the slider using Counter feedback type will work for dimming and status for Zwave the same way as Cbus and KNX, ie full scale is 255



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