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 Posted: Thursday Sep 12th, 2013 04:12 pm
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Make sure they don't send you my old one then as that has a bug that doesn't report back the statuses correctly for multi-level modules (ie 2x1.5 fibraros for example)! :)

Make sure you get the latest firmware on it.

You can checkout at http://www.remotec.com.hk



 Posted: Thursday Sep 12th, 2013 04:32 pm
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One thing I have found about the fibraro's is that these don't randomly switch on/off where my old ACT ones do all the time. In fact in my lounge where I have two large clusters of CFL's the ACT switches would sometime completely lockup such that I couldn't turn them off. For a while I removed the ACT switch from this location as it became such a pain. However since switching to the fibraro and a normal switch facing then not had a single lockup.



 Posted: Monday Sep 16th, 2013 04:31 pm
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Hi. We seem to be in completely the wrong thread for Heatmiser discussion as we've morphed from the Fibraro discussion.

{admin/ident} can you split?


Julian

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 Posted: Tuesday Sep 17th, 2013 02:02 am
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unfortunately a topic cannot be split  but this has become messy

I have copied all the Heatmiser posts into here http://www.comfortforums.com/forum42/3520.html
so please continue the Heatmiser discussion over there and keep this for Zwave



 Posted: Monday Nov 25th, 2013 08:48 pm
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Hi All,

Well I got fed up of waiting for the remotec controller and decided to buy a veralite. I am led to believe this is one of the best z-wave controllers on the uk market.

Haveing setup vera it managed to detect and control the fibaro switches (as well as the danfoss stats) extreamly well.

Now I have introduced the z-wave ucm 3 into the network and it performs in the same way as the old aeon labs controller and detects the fibaro 2 gang switches as basic nodes.

Using the atest z-wave firmware I can't switch the fibaro on at all.

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 Posted: Tuesday Nov 26th, 2013 12:45 am
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"Now I have introduced the z-wave ucm 3 into the network and it performs in the same way as the old aeon labs controller and detects the fibaro 2 gang switches as basic nodes."

During UCM/Zwave learn, was the Fibaro device powered on then? All Z-Wave devices have to be on during learn process. Otherwise. "Basic"(by default) will be assigned to them.



 Posted: Tuesday Nov 26th, 2013 06:45 pm
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Hi Leonchue,

I was not sure so I have removed UCM from network and then included with the fibaro devices switched on, they remain as basic nodes.

Regards

Lee



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It looks like the problem may be that the Fibaro may be out of range at the time that the UCM/Zwave is doing the learning from the remote contool. If the UCM/Zwave  cannot get a reply from  the Zwave device, it will assign a basic node to it which is what you are seeing

Is the Zwave antenna securely connected to the UCM, and do you  have the antenna outside the metal box? What is the distance between the UCM/Zwave and the fibaro?
Can you move the two nearer together to test if this is the problem?

Another solution to the range problem is to install another zwave device in between to take advantage of Zwave mesh network feature



 Posted: Thursday Nov 28th, 2013 06:28 pm
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Hi Ident,

The ucm antenna is outside the metal box and approx 2.5 meters from the fibaro device.


Just so that I am doing the right thing, i have a vera lite as the main controller and have included all my z-wave devices. This process was carried with a few cm distance between vera and the device.

The I have then put vera in to include mode and clicked learn button on the z-wave ucm tab in comfigurator, all node are switched on as suggested, but when the import is completed the nodes are detected as basic.

Does the UCM talk to vera and devices during the learn? should I try to included the fabiro relays directly to the ucm?



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Lee

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Just checking, have you tried learning with the latest UCM/Zwave 7.031 version? :)



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Btw, what is your Z-Wave module version? Version 3.22 and above fixed a bug that identify multi-channel devices wrongly. See Z-Wave manual (page 15) for more details.



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Hi

Z-wave Chip Type 2
Z- wave chip version 1
Z-wave controller type bridge
Z-wave module info 2.40. Looks like this could be the problem then

UCM version 7.031



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That is a bug in the Zwave module itself, not the UCM/Zwave firmware
It needs a replacement of the plug in module as the upgrade cannot be done by Comfigurator.
You can return the plugin Zwave module to us for upgrade



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Hi All

I have purchased another fibaro 2 x 1.5w module and again I am having difficulty getting comfort to recognise both switches on the device.

I have removed it from the installation location around 5 meters away and temporally wired it less than a meter away from the comfort z-wave aerial. I have made sure the output is on when including it in to the network by connecting a lamp.

Vera detects both switches on fibaro and I am able to switch both output on and off, unfortunatly when I go through the include process for comfort it only detects as a basic node.

I am running firmware 7.031 and z-wave module 3.52.

Any suggestions.

 



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I've had that too in the past and doing a learn again would usually work.
I'd say also make sure your primary controller has good battery power but in your case this is Vera so not applicable. 
I think moving a switch is not a good idea in ZWave architecture because it will confuse the mesh network comms which otherwise know the relative position of all nodes in the network.  Removing the device for the the network first would need to be done before you move it.



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Hi Julian

 

Good to hear from you again.

The reason for moving the module closer to comfort is I just wanted to try and get it detected by comfort as a multichannel node. If I ruled out the distance issue I thought I would be able to remove from the network and go through the process again.

I have gone through the following several (20 - 40 if not more) times.

1.       Removed the fibaro module from vera thus the network and reinstall then learned in comfort.

2.       Removed  comfort from the network and reinstalled

3.       Removed comfort from the network, rest the ucm to factory default and reinstalled.

4.       Tried putting another z-wave module between comfort and the new fibaro module and repeat 1 - 3

5.       Moved fabrio from the installed location to within ½ a meter of comfort z-wave controller and repeat 1 – 3

During this process above the 2 fibaro 2 x 1.5w module I have working stopped and detected as basic nodes again, however,  as soon as I switched both sets of lights on and reinstalled (learned)  they detected as multichannel switches in comfort and worked ok again

I guess all I can do now is order another fibaro 2x1.5w module and try again. The only thing that makes me feel this is not going to work is the fact vera has always detected both switches of the fibaro module and been able to switch both outputs on and off, even in the original and intended location.

To be honest I will give it another hour today just to see if I can get it working.

Best Regards

Lee



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Hi
Have to say I've been through these steps before too but usually it has just been a case of doing a learn again and not changing anything on the remote/vera or switch side. 
It seems when Comfort cant properly identify the node it sets it as basic. when the learn does work though all is ok.
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Could it be that the Fibaro switches are with the old firmware that does not report as multichannel, as reported by Julian a few months back?



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The old firmware was in my Remotec primary remote and not anything to do with the Fibraro firmware.



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