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 Posted: Thursday Aug 16th, 2012 05:19 pm
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Hi

I have a cytech system installed and yesterday i was making some tests, and suddenly the words that is shown on the keypad changed and now it doesn't make any sense.
I've downloaded the vocab file again(.bin portuguese file) and downloaded it to the keypad (pressing *1) and nothing seems to work. The vocab file had been downloaded weeks/months ago and worked fine untill now.

The keypad KP04 has a 1.017 firmeware.

I've seen a EEPROM inside the keypad, but it is 64kB. Can I reset the EEPROM using the one that is on the UCM/Eth that is 256kB?

Any other solution?

Thanks



 Posted: Thursday Aug 16th, 2012 10:26 pm
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Did the vocab download work?

Did the *1 complete downloading?

What exactly is not working?



 Posted: Friday Aug 17th, 2012 04:20 am
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Hi ident

Yes, it worked fine..those downloads worked fine..

ohh..and I forgot to say, the SMS received are ok. The alarm zones anounced are correct.
The problem is just on the keypad. The correspondent words defined on the comfort and on the keypad are wrong. I think that is something about the sentence table on the keypad.



 Posted: Friday Aug 17th, 2012 07:51 am
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This may be a translation problem with the portuguese bin file which was made by another portuguese company

Is this the bin file that was originally in the Comfort? or is it a new file that was give to you
Have you use this bin file on other Comfort?



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Hi ident

No, this wasn't the original. The file in cause had been downloaded over a year ago and it worked fine untill now.
I've downloaded today a english bin file, and it was ok. Then, i've downloaded the portuguese bin file again and it was still wrong. The difference now is that the mischanged words wasn't the same as before.

I've alredy used this file in another 2 projects and they are both ok (as well as were this one untill yesterday).

can I change the EEPROM 64kB chip that is installed inside the keypad?



 Posted: Friday Aug 17th, 2012 10:37 pm
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Yes you can change it with one from another KP04

But if the sentence Upgrade and *1 were successful then the result shoould be te same, it cannot be different



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Hi ident

I've changed the EEPROM form the keypad04 and downloaded the vocab and there is still a mistake about it.

I think there might be a bug on the new Comfigurator software (3.5.2 beta), because it was the only change that I've done since the last time. I've alredy uninstall it and install the 3.4 comfigurator but it didn't solve the problem.

Here is the vocab file file that I've used and please take a look and test it to make sure if is this the problem.

Attachment: Marta32.zip (Downloaded 4 times)

Last edited on Monday Aug 20th, 2012 07:19 am by Canha



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We have not receibed the file
PM will not allow attachments so please send to support@cytech.biz



 Posted: Tuesday Aug 21st, 2012 10:40 am
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Hi ident

I've realized that issue after the reply. The attachment is on the previous post, diffined as "Marta.zip".

Today i've changed the keypad04 for a keypad03, and the zone announcements are wrong too.



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Hi ident

Are there any news?! I need this to end up the cytech project.

Thanks



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We have done a vocabulary upgrade for the marta.bin file

The words announced is the same as the LCD Display. There is nothing wrong with the bin vocan file

However If I select Portuguese Residential in my Comfigurator, the words are not the same as the words announced or displayed on  the LCD
Is this the problem that you mean?

This is because the Marta.bin file uses differebt word numbers than the Portuguese residential  configuration that is in Comfigurator

In Comfigurator > Config folder there is a file called vocab.cfg which has the contents below
>WordList
00=Standard Residential,cs-wl-std.cfg,sentence.cfg
01=Chinese Residential,cs-wl-ch.cfg,sentence-ch.cfg
02=UK Residential,cs-wl-uk.cfg,sentence.cfg
03=Italian Residential,Italres.cfg,sentence-it.cfg
04=Pagewatch,cs-wl-pw.cfg,sentence.cfg
05=English Residential,newengwl.cfg,sentence.cfg
06=Australian Residential,cs-wl-au.cfg,sentence.cfg
07=Thai Residential,thai.cfg,sentence.cfg
08=Spanish Residential,spanish.cfg,sentence_spa.cfg
09=English Industrial,indus.cfg,sentence.cfg
10=Chinese Residential,chinese.cfg,sentence-ch.cfg
11=Portuguese Residential,portuguese.cfg,sentence-port.cfg
12=Thai Residential C1,cs-wl-th.cfg,sentence.cfg

The entry for Portuguese Residential uses portuguese.cfg
These are text files which determine which words correspond to the word numbers
You can open the cfg files using a text editor

The Marta.bin file must have been done by someone who made a different portuguese.cfg file or has a different filename for portuguese in vocab.bin

It may have worked before because you had the correct cfg files in Comfigurator
But when you upgraded to a new Comfigurator, the old files were overriden

Can you get the previous vocab.cfg file and the portuguese.cfg fiies that you used before?




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Hi ident

Probably it could be the reason why its wrong. When the keypad started the with the wrong announcements i've downloaded only the .bin file and not the other two .cfg files.

I will download the other two files, and try again and I will let you know soon as possible.

Thanks for you attention.



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Thanks, can you send the 2 cfg files so that we can help others with the same problem in future



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Hi ident

Still not working. I'll send the files that I used for this project.

Thanks

Attachment: Marta32.zip (Downloaded 5 times)



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Your problem is that the person who provided the marta32.bin file modified the vocab.cfg and provided the  cs-wl-pt.cfg file which is the wordlist

In the modified vocab.cfg Portuguese Residential points to cs-wl-pt.cfg

When you installed a new Comfigurator, the default vocab.cfg wil override the modified vocab,cfg hence Portuguese Residential would point to portuguese.cfg which is not the same wordlist as marta32

I have attached a new vocab.cfg file which adds a new entry Portuguese Marta which points to cs-wl-pt.cfg
Save this to Comfigurator > config folder
When you open your cclx file, select Portuguese Marta instead of Portuguese Residential in Modules and Settings > Wordlist

This will select the correct wordlist
Save a copy of the vocab.cfg file under a diferent name so when you upgrade comfigurator, you can rename it back to vocab.cfg

Attachment: vocab.cfg (Downloaded 20 times)



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Hi slychiu

I've alredy edited the file and it's working fine now. I didn't noticed this change before.

Thanks very mutch for your attention.

Avelino Canha



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