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 Posted: Wednesday Feb 20th, 2013 11:04 am
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KNX 6.111 (beta) has the following changes
  1. Fixed BUG from KNX 6.024 - KNX to Comfort mapping for Keypad Keys, Arm commands, Panic, Bypass Zones, and Zones  did not work. Map to Counters, Sensors, Virtual Inputs do work
  2. Function to use COPY button to press and hold to change UCM/KNX ID has been implemented. However this only affects UCM/KNX which has the pushbutton available.
KNX 1 bit and 1 byte objects mapped to Comfort Counters are ignored if the value is unchanged, eg On command folllowed by another ON command, or Off comand followed by another off command, or the same value in a 1 byte object


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 Posted: Wednesday Feb 20th, 2013 11:37 am
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For KNX 6.111, KNX 1 bit and 1 byte objects mapped to Comfort Counters are ignored if the value is unchanged, eg On command folllowed by another ON command, or Off command followed by another off command, or the same value in a 1 byte object

The above behaviour of KNX6.111 was introduced in KNX6.024. In the previous firmware 6.015, 1-bit and 1 byte objects always updated the mapped counters even if their value does not change. It has been pointed out that this is better because KNX Scene buttons must send the same value when they are pressed

hence we have also a version 6.112 which behaves in the "old" way ie like 6.015, in the attached file

When we have feedback as to the best way to implement this then future firmware will be fixed in that behaviour

The two versions 6.111 and 6.112 otherwise are the same

Known Bugs
Sending telegrams to KNX group addresses causes the mapped counter to be updated for status but it should not cause Countter Responses to be activated. The bug is that counter Responses are activated by telegrams to  KNX.
Counter Responses should only be activated by telegrams from KNX to Comfort

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 Posted: Saturday Feb 23rd, 2013 02:39 am
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It appears that KNX 6.112 is preferred. That is the one where KNX telegram with the same value will actiivate counter Responses

It is working

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KNX firmware 6.112 haas been released
Pllease upgrade if you have problems with older firmware



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Please note the bug found in KNX 6.112

Known Bugs
Sending telegrams to KNX group addresses causes the mapped counter to be updated for status but it should not cause Countter Responses to be activated. The bug is that counter Responses are activated by telegrams to  KNX.
Counter Responses should only be activated by telegrams from KNX to Comfort





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This can cause an endless loop



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It should not cause an endless loop
Lets say you send a telegram to KNX group address. The counter is updated and activate  a Response. This should not cause a telegram from KNX which would cause an endless loop

Now the case where a telegram is received from KNX which activates a counter response. That Response should not send a telegram back to the same KNX group address as that would be wrong and unnecessary. if a KNX address  is switched ON, you  dont want to send a telegram to switch it on again, or switch it off again

Nevertheless there may be undesirable effects in certain cases. A new version wil be released soon



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Can I use the UCM/KNX module to program the Comfort System via KNX bus without a standard UCM?



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You cannot use UCM/KNX to program Comfort, it function is to interface with KNX only

You use UCM/USB or UCM/ETH02 to program comfort, prfer UCM/ETH02 because it can program from remmote and can use iphone /android app with it



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ident ha scritto: It should not cause an endless loop
Lets say you send a telegram to KNX group address. The counter is updated and activate  a Response. This should not cause a telegram from KNX which would cause an endless loop

Now the case where a telegram is received from KNX which activates a counter response. That Response should not send a telegram back to the same KNX group address as that would be wrong and unnecessary. if a KNX address  is switched ON, you  dont want to send a telegram to switch it on again, or switch it off again

Nevertheless there may be undesirable effects in certain cases. A new version wil be released soon


Any news about new version ?



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Sorry about that, there is a beta firmware 7.030 which you can download from http://www.cytech.biz/product_details.php?item_id=232 that should fix the problem of sending command to KNX also updates the mapped counters response
In most cases that bug should not affect you so you may not see any difference



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Yet another reason to RENAME the UCM
How about ANY UCM that can upload / download Comfigurator to be re-named CCM (Comfort communication module) ?



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If we were starting over with the names of modules, that would be a great idea, but I am worried that it may cause confusion if the name of the most commonly used module were changed now



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