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 Posted: Thursday Mar 5th, 2015 05:12 pm
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Firstly I should say that I am not a professional installer but I have just finished installing a Comfort Ultra 2 system into a house that we moved into a couple of years ago, having been so pleased with the one that I installed in our old house. It is really a very impressive system and the newer versions of Comfigurator make programming much easier than I remember it being the first time round!

That having been said, I am struggling to achieve something that I think should be very simple. I know that this has been discussed elsewhere on the board before but none of the potential solutions seem to work.

The problem.

When I installed the latest system I only used a single keypad - next to the alarm cupboard. This works fine but if the system is triggered at night we don't hear the external sounder very well and the keypad is almost inaudible upstairs. In the longer term I plan to install keypads upstairs, but in the meantime the goal was to increase the volume of the internal alarm. To do this I installed a speaker which I duly connected to the appropriate terminals on the mainboard.

This certainly works for the intruder alarm - it is very loud. The problem is that arming and trouble tones are now also heard over the speaker - very loudly even when I reduce the gain on the on board potentiometer. This means that if one of us is up late and arms the system before we go upstairs the arming tones wake the entire family.

The issue here seems to be that Comfort uses the same sound for an entry and exit alert delay, which we want from the speakers in day and vacation modes, as it uses for night mode. I know this sounds picky, but is seems to me understandable that a mode that is designed to be armed at night, when other members of the family are likely to be asleep, should have an easy option for muting the warning tones and announcements, to save waking everyone up.

If there is such a simple solution I have not been able to find it and so I would be very grateful if anyone can tell me how this is best achieved! At the moment, after frequent complaints from my wife, I have had to disconnect the speaker entirely, which is not a great solution long term as it means we might sleep through a proper intruder alert.

I guess this is a small issue in the grand scheme of things when you consider that I have a security system that I can access by SMS, calls me if there is trouble or an intruder, integrates with my X10 lights and can be triggered by my Zwave PIR's!

Anyway, any help with this would be much appreciated.



 Posted: Thursday Mar 5th, 2015 06:03 pm
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I cannot see a good solution to this short of using another keypad. The keypad can be programmed to disable broadcasts based on time programs or events

Perhaps you can try muffling the speaker by enclosing it.

Or connect a 100 ohm 1 watt resistor in series to the speaker to reduce the volume



 Posted: Monday Mar 9th, 2015 03:57 am
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I am an enthusiastic (occaisonal) enthusiast, who dabbles in the programming from time to time.

Our system is set to auto arm into night mode and we had a similar issue, so I silenced the arming process using this response, which is triggered by a timer:

If SecurityMode = SecurityOff And Timer T25-DownOcc = 0 Then ! If security is off and no one is downstairs
If Flag Flag27-ArmNight <> 0 Then ! and if the user setting for Auto Arm is on
Keypad AllKeypads Broadcast Disable ! Turns off keypad announcements
AutoArm NightMode ! Arms to night mode automatically
End If
End If

There are a few conditionals in that snippet which you can ignore, in our case referring to other programming making sure no one is downstairs, and that the feature is enabled in the Home Control (using Flag 27 which allows us to turn this off).

Essentially I think you need the Keypad AllKeypads Broadcast Disable command. Edit the response assigned to your Nightmode key on the keypad to include this, and then perhaps re-enable communication via the same command using a timer. So once silently armed, if there is an alarm you are alerted.

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Last edited on Monday Mar 9th, 2015 04:00 am by HenleyBranch



 Posted: Monday Mar 9th, 2015 07:08 am
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The problem is "Disable broadcast " will work on the keypads only, but the sounds will still be heard on the Internal speaker which does not have a disable mechanism



 Posted: Monday Mar 9th, 2015 01:06 pm
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Connect the speaker via a relay and output within the cabinet the link to a response: kill the speaker connection using the relay during night arming process but take it live again using a timer once armed so any alarms remain audible?



 Posted: Friday Mar 13th, 2015 08:19 pm
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I'd be happy with disabling the very very annoying beeps on the keypads. Not needed in any way, but can't be turned off.



 Posted: Saturday Mar 14th, 2015 10:55 am
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The KP06 can disable key beeps



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