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gaynorc
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Most of the z-wave devices I have, including those of different brands, have the ability to accept "all-on" and "all-off" commands from a controller. Each device can itself be programmed to react to these commands, or not to react.
It would save a lot of responses if I could utilise the all-off or all-on command in Comfort z-wave responses.
Can this be done with comfort responses / comfigurator, if so how?
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 07:13 am |
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You can program a Zwave command to switch on or off multiple Zwave devices
Use Response Wizard, UCM> Zwave, select Basic Set Command, and select the IDs applicable for the command
You can select multiple IDs by separating the IDs by comma, or pressing Control and selecting all the devices seen in the list as seen in the screenshot
In this example, the response turns off the Zwave IDs 2,3,4,5 in a single command
You dont even need to program individual devices whether to accept or reject the command
Attachment: multiCommand.jpg (Downloaded 47 times) Last edited on Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 07:18 am by ident
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 07:22 am |
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gaynorc
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Thanks ident.
What you have demonstrated is the way I do my responses at the moment, but its not easy with 26 nodes/channels to address. Several responses briefly separated in time to ensure that some are not lost (I found from experience that if I send too many in the one response, some are lost).
But all the z-wave devices I have are capable of responding to one single command from the controller: all-off (or all-on). There are four different brands involved, so this command must be universal to z-wave? It would be very useful if the UCM-zwave could send such commands. Can it?Last edited on Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 07:22 am by gaynorc
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 07:40 am |
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The all on and off commands require the All Switch command class which is not supported by UCM/Zwave. I dont think that all switches support the command
The command as I described should work reliably according to the Zwave specs
It first sends a single broadcast command to all the devices in the list so all switch at the same time without the popcorn effect (which can be up to 128 devices if I remember correct), and then addresses each device in the list individually to ensure that all devices respond in case they miss the broadcast.
You should not need to separate the commands by delays.
It should not be any less reliable than the All Off and All on function, at least according to Zwave theory
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 08:04 am |
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Check that you are using the latest UCM/Zwave firmware and Zwave Library version as that may have an effect on the problem
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 08:42 am |
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Thanks ident, I will try all that and see.
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 09:12 am |
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I tried this at the weekend and it worked for my single channel devices but my 2 channel fibraro units didn't work. Now I know I can operate them when specifying a single channel number but when I tried both at the same time it (ie 1,2) it didn't. I'll need to do some more testing but fyi.
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 09:17 am |
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Thanks Julian.
That's just the question I was going to ask ident, can we address a single Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM-ZWave command to multiple devices and more than one channel at a time?
e.g.: Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM-ZWave 3,10,11,14,21,49 1,2 99
I haven't tried it, so that's not the reason one command fails to switch a long list of device ids for me.
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 10:33 am |
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The Zwave multiple device command allows you to select devices which support the same command that you are sending
If you are sending commands to channels, then all devices in the list must support the channel
If you select channels 1,2,3 then all devices selected must support these channels
I sugest to split it into commands to single channel devices and commands to multichannel devices
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| Posted: Monday Dec 2nd, 2013 05:21 pm |
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Hmm
I tried that too.
I sent all of the normal single channel devices in one command and then the two test twin channel devices in a second command. The first command worked, the second appeared to be ignored so will have to do some more testing.
Julian
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| Posted: Tuesday Dec 3rd, 2013 05:08 pm |
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Ident,
I tried as you indicated today, and it worked for me. I separated the devices into single channel and multichannel devices, and used a separate command for each type. I notice that comfigurator converts the channels ids in a two channel command from "1,2" to "131".
For example, these are the final commands that worked:
Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM-ZWave 3,6,7,10,20,21,22,23,24,25,27,28,29,48,49,55,57 131 99
Zwave BasicSetCommand UCM-ZWave 4,8,9,11,12,13,14,32,33,34,56 0 99
ColmLast edited on Tuesday Dec 3rd, 2013 05:09 pm by gaynorc
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| Posted: Wednesday Dec 4th, 2013 01:11 am |
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I am glad that the commands worked.
Luckily the Response wizard takes care of the encoding of he zwave commands so that you do not need to worry about the end commands that are sent to zwave as it can get complicated
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