| Posted: Tuesday Aug 17th, 2010 06:01 pm |
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Hello.
....as i suspected, i need your help again.....
I am not able to insert 'Night alarm' and bypasing a zone.
On the 'user-manual', it seem simple. I only have to press 'f', then 'window-key' and then i have to answer the keypad Lcd-screen question.
Well, when i insert the 'night mode alarm' and i press 'f-window' key, no message on the keypad screen. I only hear a 'beep'.
I try to 'bypass' even from an x-10 command. I have configured cp9000 in order to bypass a window when it receive 'L16 on', but even in this case, the zone is not bypassed.
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| Posted: Wednesday Aug 18th, 2010 01:23 am |
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What sensor is in the zone that you are trying to bypass when arming to night mode?
Is it a motion sensor?
If it is, then the more suitable way to bypass that zone is assigning a PIRAway zone type to that zone.
PIRAway zone type means that the zone will only active when the system is armed to Away mode only; it is disabled in Night, Day or Security Off mode.
F, 1('window') is a shortcut key to bypass a zone.
By default, when F, 1 keys are pressed, the system will ask you to sign-in.
If you only hear a beep, there is a possibility that the default configuration of F, 1 keys has been changed.
You can see this configuration from the Comfigurator software > Control > Keypad.
Key 1 is equivalent of pressing F, 1 keys in the keypad.
And regarding your last question, what action you put in that X10 L16 On Response to bypass a zone?
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| Posted: Wednesday Aug 18th, 2010 02:15 am |
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You say you press Night mode key then F1 to bypass the zone
This is not correct
Bypass the zone using F1 before arming the system not while arming the system
If a zone is open and announced when you are arming the zone you can force-arm the system and automatically bypass all open zones by pressing the # key
eg Press Night mode key
Keypad says "zone 2, zone 4" continuously if zone 2 and 4 are open
Press the # key. This will automatically bypass the zones and arm to Night mode
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| Posted: Wednesday Aug 18th, 2010 01:09 pm |
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The zone i am trying to bypass, is not a motion sensor, but a 'closure sensor'.
In the 'comfort' key-configuration menu, i have 'F1'key = Bypass zone and i have 'cheked' the 'need code' option.
I put in the 'L16 ON' response the action 'Bypass Cameramat' where 'Cameramat' is the zone need to be bypassed.
I also have tryed to press 'F1' before arming the system, first time inserting my signin codebefore, second time inserting my signin code after and third time without inserting my signin code.
In every case, keypad does not show anything in lcd screen (no voice because i don't know why, my keypad are always mute.....). After few seconds, i hear a long beep and the system remains on 'security off'.
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 12:43 am |
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No voice from the keypad?
Have you checked the Mic / Voice wiring from the keypad to Comfort panel?
Make sure it is not broken and in correct orientation i.e. Mic wire from Comfort goes to the keypad's Mic and Voice wire from Comfort goes to the keypad's Voice.
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 05:14 am |
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No, the wires are ok, i am sure.... The mute keypads, is a configuration problem, but i will face this after solving most important problems.
At the moment, i am intrested to be able bypassing a zone.
hendy wrote: No voice from the keypad?
Have you checked the Mic / Voice wiring from the keypad to Comfort panel?
Make sure it is not broken and in correct orientation i.e. Mic wire from Comfort goes to the keypad's Mic and Voice wire from Comfort goes to the keypad's Voice.
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 05:25 am |
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Can you send your cclx file to support@cytech.biz so we can see your programming
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 06:34 am |
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Done. I have set you the email....
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 08:51 am |
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A quick look at your configuration file shows nothing wrong with the bypass menu F, 1 from keypad.
I have also transferred your program to my test board and found out that F,1 bypass menu works fine.
And it also has voice menu announced from keypad; this shows that there may be something wrong with the audio wiring or the keypad's speaker knob inadvertently set to minimum hence no voice coming out from your keypad.
When you press F,1 on keypad, it should say "Please sign-in".
If you do not sign-in the keypad will beep after 5 seconds.
If you sign-in with your code, the keypad should say "Bypass, Enter zone number and # key, Press # for previous menu".
This is why it is important to have the voice to be working at first place.
It lets us know whether we have successfully enter to the bypass menu or not.
I can't help but notice that you have changed the default responses for Away, Night, and Day arming on keypad using the AutoArm action.
This AutoArm action is normally used for remote arming i.e. when you are not inside the house as this AutoArm will not announce any open zones while arming, it will bypass them instead.
Again, the importance of having voice on keypad so that you know which zone has not been closed when arming.
Please sort out the voice issue first as it will make the troubleshooting easier to do.
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 11:46 am |
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....oh, well, if you have tested my configuration and everything goes well, that means i have surely something wrong....
I have take a look again to the keypad connection and tested with the 'electrical tester'... No cable interrupt, they seems ok.
The speaker too seems to work because often i hear a little noise when it would speak.
First time i uploaded ccl file, a message appeared in wich there was an alert message about "vocabulary".... i don't remember exactl what it was. I think a different version of the vocablary between Comfigurator and CP9000.
I have changed default responses of 'Away', 'Night' and 'Day' mode because i am using Cp9000 via X-10 from a LAN in my house. I have many little lcd monitor in every room and they control a central CPU unit via LAN.
The central CPU can arm the alarm and if a zone is opened, the central CPU disarm the system and ask for closing the zone before retrying to arm the system.
I was trying to bypass a zone via CPU (X10 command L16), so, from the little lcd monitors, the central CPU send an X10 command to CP9000 and CP9000 bypass the zone.
But at the moment, i am not able to do this.....
I hope i have explain..... my english is no good.....
Last edited on Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 11:48 am by emabonacchi
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 03:49 pm |
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Can you please take a look at the 'bypass by L16' command in the file i have sent to you?
How can i use it?
I have tried to send 'L16ON' before arming the system and after arming the system, but in both cases, the zone was not bypassed because i have tryed to open the window and the alarm turned on.
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| Posted: Thursday Aug 19th, 2010 05:12 pm |
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..........just solved the 'voice-mic' problem......
The problem was that i am really an idiot...... cabling error. Two wire was 'green'. One dark-green and the other light-green.....
Now when i press 'F-1', a voice ask me to signin, i signin and then i am able to bypass the zone!
So,everything works as espected.
I can tell the problem is NOT solved, because there was NO problem.
The only problem was me.... and i am very very sorry about.
Now, i would like to 'bypass' the zone from central CPU.
Can someone suggest me how to make an X10 signal (L16ON in my configuration) works?
Thank you.
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 01:23 am |
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In your configuration file, you have created the 'L16ON' response but you have not placed it in the correct event i.e. in Events > X10 Receive Codes > L16 On Response.
Another thing, I notice that you are still using the old Comfigurator 2 software to create your configuration file.
Please use the new Comfigurator 3 software as this provides new features and bugs' fixes that Comfigurator 2 does not have.
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 07:43 am |
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Well, this was another stupid error from me.
I have put 'L16ON' response in X10 event 'A16ON' response.
Now, everything works.
I am trying to do a thing, but i am not able, so i would like to receive some sugestion:
I would like to set 3 zone L16, L15, L14.
When x10 device L16 is 'on' and i arm the system in night mode, i would like Cp9000 bypass zone11 (called 'Cameramat' in my configuration file), then arm in night mode.
When x10 device L15 is 'on' and i arm the system in night mode, i would like Cp9000 bypass zone14 (called 'Cameretta1' in my configuration file), then arm in night mode.
When x10 device L14 is 'on' and i arm the system in night mode, i would like Cp9000 bypass zone10 (called 'Camereta2' in my configuration file), then arm in night mode.
If these x10 devices are 'off', i would like Cp9000 arm the system without bypassing these zones.
I am reading the Help file and the forum, but i have not found a possible way to do it.
What is a 'flag'? Is it pheraps a 'variable' i can configure as i want?
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 12:44 pm |
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You can use flags to do this which are set or cleared by the X10 On or off responses
If you are using X10 to arm to night mode, before you do the arm action you can check the 3 flags to determine if the related zones should be bypassed, then do the arm to Night action
Note that auto arm action willl auto-bypass the open zones, so the bypass zones action will be not needed. If you dont want to auto bypass you must use the Key arm actionb, not the auto-arm action
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 12:46 pm |
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I have just understand what a 'Flag' is, and i am beginning to see what really CP9000 can do!
I think CP9000 is really a great machine!
Now, finally i am able to use my security system as i want!
I want to thank all the Cytech staff for the great help in installing and configuring.
Your system is really amazing and above all, you are a great staff, because your help has always been fast and useful.
Many many thanks to all!
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 12:48 pm |
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You have replyed just when i was typing my last message....
I have understood many things today about configuring CP9000......
Surely i will need some other things to learn, but now, basically everything works!
slychiu wrote: You can use flags to do this which are set or cleared by the X10 On or off responses
If you are using X10 to arm to night mode, before you do the arm action you can check the 3 flags to determine if the related zones should be bypassed, then do the arm to Night action
Note that auto arm action willl auto-bypass the open zones, so the bypass zones action will be not needed. If you dont want to auto bypass you must use the Key arm actionb, not the auto-arm action
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| Posted: Friday Aug 20th, 2010 01:04 pm |
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Thanks. You miust be quite clever to have done so far by yourself without any previous training!
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| Posted: Saturday Aug 21st, 2010 07:34 am |
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To convert your ccl file to cclx for Comfigurator 3, open configurator 3, do File Open and select ccl file. This loads your old file, then Save As cclx file
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| Posted: Saturday Aug 21st, 2010 03:23 pm |
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I can not use Comfigurator 3 because my laptop has an old operative system (Win 98).
I have a newer laptop with Win Xp, but it has not the serial port and trying to use the usb-adapter, the communication with ucm doesn't works.
But it seems comfigurator2 is ok at the moment.
I will search a solution in order to be able using Comfigurator3 in the future, but now i am intrested to make all the system works.
Now i am studying about language and vocabulary because i would like to have the answering machine working as i want.
At the moment i am a really happy customer!
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