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 Posted: Saturday Aug 6th, 2011 04:06 pm
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Hi THere , Can Anybody help Me. i Accidentaly Pulled My C Bus Cable out Of the Ucm Cbus /ucm On the Comfort Board Witht The C Bus Chip 5.154 On the Board is A Black 10 Pin Socket Where The C Bus Clipsal Module Plugs Into.

The C Bus Sim Has Unplugged From the Comfort Board And Now I Canot Send Cbus to Comfort Commands, However Comfort To C Bus Works ??? Maybe i Plugged the c Bus SIM into the Wrong 5 Sockets on the Board.

On the Clipsal Board Marked 1223/7 there Are 4 Pins That Go into The Socket With 10 Pins in. Do they Fo into the Left 5 Or Rear 5 or Front ?? Please Help
Thaks, Clinton



 Posted: Saturday Aug 6th, 2011 05:56 pm
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Clinton,

Have a look at the picture below, I drew a quick box around the connector, the first pin should go into the bottom right corner - see the little red dots I put on there.

Also check with CBus Toolkit that the CBus side didn't lose it's config or addressing.

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Attachment: cbus.jpg (Downloaded 80 times)



 Posted: Saturday Aug 6th, 2011 07:16 pm
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Thanks Ingo. i Have Lost The unit in Toolkit. it Came up Last Time As network Bridge..!!! Go Figure. it Took Me A Whole Day to identify The Problem.. now to Fix it As They Want 2 K For A new one !!. Will Try it Just now, Its A Bit Late now And Dont want Sirens Going off And upsetting the neighbours Again.. Thanks Will keep You Posted. Thanks for the image.. i THINK I Got the Connector Wrong Yesterday But i Hope its okay Still...



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Hi Ingo
Thanks For Your help.. IT WORKS And I Now Have It Back in Toolkit.. I Feel Like Such A Twat...If Ever You in Knysna Give Me A Call And We Go For Coffee Or So

Thanks, Clinton



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Sure, no problem. I might just be there one day for a Mountain Bike race...



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Mountain Bike Race, Cool   

Its In Toolkit Again But C Bus Cant Send Commands

I Get A    Communications Failure 18             ???

 

Will Do reset In Morning..

Thanks So Far

 

Any Idea What is   Communications Failure 18 

 

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Communications Failure 18 means the UCM #2 (presumably the UCM/Cbus) is not communicating
Check the UCM ID shunt is set to 2, ie SW7 A removed and do a reset of the UCM/Cbus



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Its In Tool Kit But not receiving C Bus Commands... Looks Like i Might Have To Get A new One After all...............



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Did you check the UCm ID ?
Are you still getting Communications Failure 18?



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Thanks For the Advice i Will Try Tonight To Check id

Still Getting Communications Error 18

Yet When The C Bus sim Was Pluged in Wrong the PIRs in The House Would Still Communicate And SEND Instructions TO c Bus

Once i Plugged it in Corectly.....There is
No Communication From or To C Bus......



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What you describe does not make sense
If the SIM is plugged in correctly, it can send and receive from CBis
If it is not plugged in correctly, it cannot send or receive from Cbus

If plugged in correctly, the RDY (green) LED on the UCM should be on, and the BUSY1, BUSY2, ERROR (RED) leds should be OFF

See the attached photo for the correct pins to plug in

Attachment: CIMG1049_small.jpg (Downloaded 65 times)



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Hi ident

The the RDY (green) LED on the UCM should be on ( ITS ON AND NOT FLASHING )and the BUSY1, BUSY2, ERROR (RED)9 THE ERROR FLASHES EVERY2 SECONDS ) AND THE SMALL leds ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CBUS SIM FLASH EVERY 4 SECONDS THE LEDS ON THE RIGHT OF THE SIM (GREENAND RED FLASH VERY FAST..
not sure whats happening here but... the c bus sim is plugged in corectly and no joy

i tried the phone login and i still et communication error 18 ??

Buy the Way Error 2 Stays on

Last edited on Monday Aug 8th, 2011 04:09 pm by clintonselec



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If the ERROR led remains on it means that it is not detecting Cbus

Are the SW7 shunts are set correctly for UCM #2 ie A removed, and others B to D inserted and are the D9 RED led and D10 (green) leds both flashing?
If the D9 and D10 leds are not flashing that means the ID is incorrect

The shunts may be having poor contact. Try using shunts from elsewhere
Do a Scan for UCMs in Comfigurator Modules Tab



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The ID Seems Correct As D 10 And D 9 Are Flashing On the C Bus UCM And On My Unicersal UCM..I Have Tried New Jumbers on the SW 7 A Removed B inserted And c inserted
As For Comfigurator im Still using Mindit V 2.0
As My Local Clipsal Supplier insists In MIND it
i Have
Comfigurator Latest . Do You Sugest i Try It ?
Also Can i Flash the Firmware ? Maybe it Will Help ?



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The ID Seems Correct As D 10 And D 9 Are Flashing On the C Bus UCM And On My Unicersal UCM..I Have Tried New Jumbers on the SW 7 A Removed B inserted And c IS NOT inserted D 3 Stays On And D 1 Flashes Randomly
On The SW8 Side A And B Are inserted



As For Comfigurator im Still using Mindit V 2.0
As My Local Clipsal Supplier insists In MIND it
i Have
Comfigurator Latest . Do You Sugest i Try It ?
Also Can i Flash the Firmware ? Maybe it Will Help ?

Last edited on Tuesday Aug 9th, 2011 08:43 am by clintonselec



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You will have to explain more clearly what exactly is your configuration.

What is the UCM/Cbus ID?
What is the UCM/Universal ID?

You say you have A not inserted, B inserted, C not inserted in one of the posts
This is an ID of 6!
How many UCMs do you have? and does it correspond with the Number of UCMs in Mindit?

You say you have Communications Failure 18. This means UCM ID2 is not communicating

If you have D9 and D10 leds flashing on the UCM/Cbus then it should not be the UCm which is failing to comunicate

You may have a clash of UCM IDs. You must not have 2 UCMs with the same ID
Make sure each UCM is set to a unique ID 1,2,3 etc and there must be no missing Ids ie you cannot have ID1, and ID3 with no ID2



I dont think flashing the firmware is going to solve the problem if it was working
before you removed the SIM. Mindit V2 does not support flashing anyway


Let us have ALL the products and their firmware version in your system

Mindit firmware?
UCM/Cbus firmware?
Universal Firmware? Are you sure you have  this type of UCM as it has not been released formally? Do you mean a normal programming UCM ?





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Perhaps thsi Can Help

Attachment: UCM s.jpg (Downloaded 51 times)



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The photos do not help much
Can you answer the questions I asked in the previous post please?



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Hi ther ident
unfortumately i Do Not Know the ID And Shunt Requirements
but I Seem Yo Have Lost The Communications error 18
and can Arm The Alarm Via Telephone Now.

The System Was Working Perfect For 3 Years Not one Glitch
Then While doing a Plumbing Change in The Ceiling i Hooked The C Bus Cable. So i Cut the Power Off And Reset From There No Cbus To Minder/Comfort..

I Installed Comfigurator 3 And Got the Following


Exception while reading vocab.cfg:
System.Exception: Error reading C:\Program Files\Cytech\Comfigurator 3\Config\vocab.cfg: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files\Cytech\Comfigurator 3\Config\cs-wl-th.cfg'.
at Comfort.Vocab.AddWordLists(Configuration configuration, String filename, List`1 wordlists)
at Comfort.Vocab.GetWordLists(Configuration configuration)

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Can you get someone on site to take a look at your setup?
It may be too difficult to find out enough info from here



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