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 Posted: Monday Mar 30th, 2009 04:09 pm
   
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Hi

I want to use one of the standard alarm inputs to check the status of a device 00/01

The input type must be similar to a RIO input. What should  the zone type be for alarm input  to report the status of an input without triggering an alarm situation ?

 

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 Posted: Tuesday Mar 31st, 2009 02:35 am
   
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Zone Type Digital N/O (Normally Open)
will not activate an alarm, and allows you to set the Zone shunt in the Double EOL position (Away from the terminal block) without using EOL resistors



 Posted: Tuesday Mar 31st, 2009 04:10 am
   
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Hi,

Please explain what is meant by 'allows you to set the Zone shunt in the Double EOL position (Away from the terminal block) without using EOL resistors'

or refer me to the manual for more details.

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Normally when the zone shunts are set in "Double EOL" Position , ie away from the terminalk blocks you need to use two  EOL resistors 4.7K in parallel and 2.7K in series with the sensor contact, otherwise the system will report Zone Trouble
With the Digital N/O or N/C zone types you do not need EOL resistors



 Posted: Tuesday Mar 31st, 2009 04:55 pm
   
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Hi

Please excuse my ignorance.

I am using Zone 15 to check is the device is on or off. The zone is shunted and no resistors are used.

This is not reporting the correct input zone status, always reports 00.

Do I need to remove the shunt ?

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I dont understand what you mean by the zone is shunted? How are the zone shunted, as NO EOL or Double EOL?
The zone shunts are described in the Installation Manual see http://www.cytech.biz/Default.aspx?cmd=sQ0OYE9X66w%2b0P%2bAcFsmAI3j73Rwtfrj&fileid=54&dcid=3&pageindex=


What zone type have you used?

We need all this information to understand what you have done



 Posted: Wednesday Apr 1st, 2009 02:12 pm
   
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Hi

I set Zone 15 to Zone Type 30 or 31 (which ever is digital N/O, can't remember)

I am using Configurator V223.

I am using the board stock stand, no EOL

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Have you set the zone shunt to Double EOL ie away from the terminal Block?

Remove the terminal block
Go to Keypad F3,2 for Security check
Use a wire to short and open the zone
This should cause the zone to be announced
If it does then the zone setting is correct and whatever is connected to your zone is causing the problem



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Hi

How do I do this ? ie

set the zone shunt to Double EOL ie away from the terminal Block

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Yes, as I mentioned in my earlier post and in the manual
Away from the terminal block



 Posted: Wednesday Apr 1st, 2009 03:57 pm
   
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Thanks

Did this :

Moved the shunt to the outer two pins

Remove the terminal block
Go to Keypad F3,2 for Security check
Use a wire to short and open the zone
This should cause the zone to be announced
If it does then the zone setting is correct and whatever is connected to your zone is causing the problem
 

and the zone was announced

Set Zone Type to 31

excuted this command

Get Input ByeByeStandby
If Input ByeByeStandby <> 0 Then
    Output Output002 Pulse
End If

With the wire shorted and unshorted on the terminal block and it pulses output 002 every time

 



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I guess it works then



 Posted: Thursday Apr 2nd, 2009 04:15 am
   
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No,

Unless this response is incorrectly coded

Get Input ByeByeStandby
If Input ByeByeStandby <> 0 Then
    Output Output002 Pulse
End If


If the device is OFF, I don't want to pulse the output

When the wire on the terminal block is shorted and unshorted, the I?0F returns the correct status.

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PS : Testing was done with wire ie no device as connected to the input

 

 



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The response is doing exactly  what you programmed
Zone Type 31 is Digital Normally open
When you short it, the zone response is activated, hence the output will be pulsed

In the zone is called ByebyeStandby, then all you need to do on the zone response is

    Output Output002 Pulse


When the zone is closed then you want the output to pulse?

There  is no need to test the ByeByestandby input again if you are using the Zone Response on that input





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Hi

ByeByeStandby is a relay switch that can switch the TV, DVD, XBOX, SAT etc from standby by power to being totally off.

When I go to AWAY or NIGHT Mode I check the status, if on standby power, do a 'shut down' if already in 'shut down' mode, do nothing

This worked perfectly when the input status was on the RIO

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Zone type 31 acts exactly like a RIO input
From what you said in the last post, the response does work correctlty
When you close the input, the output pulses. Is that what you wanted?
If not explain precisely what is not worjing as expecteed



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Hi

The zone is reporting the correct status.

The response is not giving me the desired effect.

Testing was done using Execute response. I did not download from PC to Comfort.

Could that be the problem ?

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You have to download to comfort for execute to work but Comfigurator will prompt you to download

When you open and close the input, the pulse is sent for BOTH open and close?
This could be because of the way you open and short, you could be causing  inadvertently open/short when you use a wire. Try usoiong a switch for  better contact





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Let me download to Comofrt and then test tonight.

Thanks for the feedback



 Posted: Thursday Apr 2nd, 2009 05:01 pm
   
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Great, working as expected.

Thanks



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